“Destiny what should you do as a casual viewer to not fall for propaganda like this?” Holy shit, look at these fucking idiots in Des-TINY’s live chat.

Why don't you Destiny on the topic? Both of you seem to be confused on each other's positions and it'd make for interesting content. Especially if it'd be such an easy dunk.

Now, I will state in advance that I am in no way defending or supporting Destiny, I am in no way on the side of genocide denying scum and literal monsters, so on and so on. But, I do urge people to educate themselves on Hasan Piker, if they came away from this video with a positive view of him. The guy's a scumbag and a creep, not as bad as Destiny and other such genocide deniers of course, but still one hell of a specimen.

first time caller, first time listener i had no idea people were denying this genocide i understand now, why people are constantly protesting. i didn't realize they had to protest against paid actors thanks for showing me

Death to Israel.

YO PETER IS THE GOAT

Shouldn't the population of Gaza be declining if there is a genocide? 2025: 2.11 million 2026: 2.13 million

WE NEED THE LIVE DEBATE. even tho it will be awful. but we need it

I'm a huge fan of Dave's, but why wont he have a discussion/debate with Destiny then? If Dave can sit down with science denialist, grifters, or antivax promoters (who have caused actual deaths btw), why is Destiny off limits? As an internet personality/influencer you have an obligation to step into an arena to defending your position and beliefs. Didn't he rip on people for running away from debates against him and say that he would be willing to defend himself under any circumstance? This feels like an easy hit piece and cope session. He's literally deleting comments and responding to knew ones as they pop up, its been 9 days since the upload lol.

destiny is such a degenerate slimy bitch

this is why i can't take prof dave seriously... what about lord jamar debate?? 😂😂😂

As much of an utter genocide denying sexpest as destiny is I dont think that indirectly promoting hasan piker is that good of an idea. While hasan does at least rightfully call out israel for its genocide, he is also an animal abuser. While that is obviously nowhere near the level of the shit destiny has done to many people including hasan himself, hasan still isnt exactly a saint either.

I'm a big fan of Professor Dave; but I think it's really sad he won't debate Destiny. He lost ton of credibiliy. Why would you criticize someone known for debating without being ready to debate him yourself? It's such an obvious misstep.

Judaism is the problem in Israel palastine conflict. Judaism teaches that jews can take land from nile to euphrates because their fucking evil God promised them. Judaism needs to be eradicated and we have to save jews first from this evil montree called Judaism. Jews are not the problem. But Judaism is definitely problem. Jews are not evil. But Judaism is definitely evil.

I hope you read this, Dave, as I genuinely and in good faith think you need to. As someone who has watched your content for years and generally supported your views and methods, this draws a line for me. Not because I support Israel—I am in fact very clear in my condemnation of Israel's actions and am highly supportive of Palestinian civilians—and nor do I have any prior allegiance to Destiny. I am drawing a line because you have actively chosen not to address the fact-checking of your prior video, opting instead to double down on inaccuracies and toxicity. If a science communicator is incapable of providing unbiased information or directly confronting criticism, why should I, or anyone else, continue to take them seriously? Both videos do of course contain a lot of accurate information, rightfully condeming Israels actions. But failing to properly address your critics in a meaningful way, despite allocating almost 3 hours to do so, is disapointing. Instead of systematically going through the rigorous fact-checks provided by creators like LonerBox or Pangburn, your response was overwhelmingly dismissive. You attacked the sheer quantity of content Pangburn made, arguing that spending so much time analyzing your video was somehow a negative. This is an incredibly ironic rebuttal when you consider the massive amount of time you have spent meticulously dismantling James Tour. You explicitly stated you are unwilling to debate Destiny, LonerBox, or Pangburn on this topic, justifying it by claiming your position is "obvious and not worth debating." This is a staggering stance for someone who built a YouTube career aggressively debating flat-earthers and creationists—whose views are, needless to say, far less worthy of debate than the current geopolitical crisis in the Middle East. Furthermore, you didn't watch (presumeably) or respond directly to a lot of Destiny’s actual rebuttals. Instead, you reacted to secondary shows critiquing Destiny, allowing you to sidestep the most direct counter-arguments. Regarding the accuracy of this new video, the consensus among political researchers is that it is just as factually compromised as the first. You are relying on what has been described as TikTok algorithms and AI slop for historical and geopolitical claims, rather than primary sources or established historical consensus. Instead of walking back the inflammatory claims from your first video, you leaned into them—including the claim that Ashkenazi Jews are simply "white Europeans" with "diluted blood." This is a historically and genetically inaccurate trope that can be condemned as offensive, and seeing a science communicator push it is deeply alarming. The overwhelming takeaway is that you are too emotionally invested in this specific topic (partially due to your family ties, as your wife is Palestinian) to maintain the objective, empirical rigor you apply to other subjects. If this is emotionally motivated delusion, it calls into question your reliability on any topic where you hold a strong bias. If you are intentionally using your platform to misinform a viewer base that won't do the research themselves, it is simply immoral. Ultimately, instead of a grounded defense, you doubled down on attacks. Because you refuse to debate the creators who fact-checked you, it appears you are choosing to silo yourself from further pushback. To your audience, this looks like a concession that you are on shaky ground—an attempt to save face and avoid being publicly outed as wrong. In reality, humility and a simple correction would have been a far less destructive path for your image. I hope you do better.

Assad killed 10x the number of his arab countrymen and not a peep out of you all. As soon as the Jews defend themselves against a genocidal invasion the Jew Hate Attack Network activates with three hour videos. Madness.

Honestly you really should debate him, I think that would be even more one sided than the genocide itself

Dave. you say Destiny would be a disingenuous debater. have you actually seen his debates? he did one on jubilee just a few days ago after making this.

according to the US Census website, "White – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa." so YES Dave, your Palestinian-American wife is WHITE.

hasan is down with zionists dsa is masked up neolib bullshit

He’s a s’head and when facing the professor in a televised debate he couldn’t say much back when faced with facts so he kept quiet for the most part and allowed his fellow debater to battle theproffesor and his fellow

Hey Dave, did these influencers register under FARA? Because if you're paid for speech on behalf of a foreign nation, you have to register as a foreign agent. That's a federal felony if they haven't... Not that the clowns in charge currently would do anything about it.

Hey Dave, genuine question if you see this: You say around 14:45 that Destiny accusing you of using Nazi rhetoric is essentially the same as him calling you a nazi. I have noted, however, you have used a very similar line of reasoning in previous videos (Graham Hancock comes to mind). That is to say, you have previously differentiated between telling someone they are using white supremecist talking points, and accusing them of BEING a supremecist, and that they are not the same, etc. If Destiny's accusation here is different somehow, accusing you of using the language of a group you ostensibly hate and don't belong to, how is his accusation and differentiation different from yours in the past? Thank you in advance if you see this and answer, I do sincerely support you and beleive you are in the right here in every way. This is entirely a question of the way you differentiate this behavior and these examples.

2:32:05 Uhm excuse me, Mr Girl? I am both a drug user and I have low empathy. I’m not this fckd up bro, I would never. That doesn’t make me a child molester

Kinda lame that Dave keeps using Ableism imagery, he is really talented on breaking people knee caps with words, so I don't feel he needs to use those emojis and misspelling all the time, and that one image of the guy looking up

Sorry to hear what happened to your wife man.

genuinely wtf was the point of him “reacting” to the video when all hes doing is looking in silence

Professor, just a heads up, the name you blacked out at 2:34:00 can be seen unredacted at 2:34:15

Scratch Destiny, and a Netanyahu-Trump supporter bleeds.

It is Destiny's density that makes people say, "This is heavy, Doc!" "Weight's got nothing to do with it. Destiny's density refers to his lack of processing power."

Bummed you won't debate Destiny or someone from pro-Isreal camp would LOVE to see that! 👏

i have no clue who this destiny guy is but it says alot to me about his character when his go to response to being proven wrong or being questioned is to just start screaming slurs

Destiny is a huge islamaphobe. He doesn’t hate the people, he has a good amount that are from Islam families that were always on his channel, he just has a disdain for the religion. I think this is the root of why he is so pro-zio. Also, his good friend is of the Jewish faith, so I think both those factors play a huge role.

Debate him then you coward lmao

Ok watched the whole video and dang. Dave can’t be trusted for videos on this. His bias leaks through like a sieve and the amount of clip chimping, out of context framing, well poisoning, ad hominem attacks, gosh galloping in this video make me understand that even Dave can get isolated in his internet bubble.

Wow let’s open the video with calling an entire group a cult(without providing evidence) and lemmings(without providing evidence) starting with an ad hominem attack to poison the well before the video begins is the right wing playbook to a tee though so at least Dave is taking notes from their success with those tactics.

Live debate already, you two are just going back and forth and now we're waiting on you again.

קִלְלַת אֱלֹהִים🇮🇱

I agree that Israel and Destiny are awful, but I also agree that Dave uses poor logic pretty frequently. At 1:45 he claims that comments critical of him were a coordinated attack and compares them to copy & paste bot comments just because they say Dave has lost it. Then to demonstrate how common that insult is at 3:55 he says that one of his critics is "off his rocker" There's a lot of minor things like that that bother me

9.8/10 nuke. -.2 for not distancing from tankies

first time on this channel , I clicked because destiny sucks but this guy is literally Destiny in a parallel universe lmao , he thinks he knows everything and has a heavy bias. and the childish memes every 5 mins on screen was unique to say the least.

If they killed all the babies. its still justified. fuck that talking point

Gotta say its alittle unhinged. I dont have time for this and neither should you.

The Israelis will say they only kill an average of 1600 people every month. About double the SS Das Reich division managed in the worst months of WW2. The Israelis will say they’ve only killed 150,000 people since 1948. In Sudan that many people have died in three years. So they’re better at genocide than the SS but not as good as the Janjaweed. Commendable.

Imagine criticising deleting comments when your trans nonsense video had the comments completely removed when you got pushback on the junk science you alluded to. I still hate destiny slightly more than you though. Free Palestine 🇵🇸

This is better than your trans misinformation.

Mr Macaroni!!!

Holy FUCK is Destiny dumb 😂😂😂

Bad ass dood

35:00 a better reason for him to skip over the things that got you demonitised is that he doesn't want to lose money over this so he's skipping what can get *him* demonitised.

No one is better equip to destroy this little boy than Prof Dave!! TEAM PROF DAVE 🎉

Tbf, deleting opposing comments is always a bad move. You could make the best, the most perfectly coherent argument but if you censure opposing views against it, for whatever reason (be it valid or not), it will be viewed negatively and will be used as an argument against you. The best action you can take is to ignore them. Let them hype each other's comments up, let them give each other a few hundred likes and let your fanbase do the rebuttal for you.

Why did u say in the past that whoever runs from the debate is a coward and wrong on the topic?

I know I can't be surprised at this point, but seeing Lonerbox made a Destiny defense response video is still sad to see. He was never super left wing but he's really intent on validating the orbiter status people have been giving him from the start. I think part of it is that he's actually quite intelligent, but intelligent people can more easily craft a justification for their existing viewpoint to avoid the reality of the situation.

Drunk or not, Destiny was trying to "wear down" Hasan's clear boundaries. I feel bad for everyone violated by this man.

2:06:25 "They're not inhuman monsters dave.. They're human beings ".... Its as if he wasnt listening to anything dave said before saying Inhuman monsters..... Pangburn took it as being racial or antisemitic instead of listening to to who and what dave us actually talking about.. Sorry to tell you moronburn, but soldiers laughing and enjoying unaliving innocent children indeed makes those soldiers inhuman pieces of shitt

It is inaccurate to describe Israel as a colony because there was no mother country that organized a colonial effort. Zionism is an indigenous movement to restore Jews in their ancient homeland, where they descend from, and where their cultural practices and faith originate from. That is because, as immigrants, they learned they were not safe anywhere else, and they would permanently be prone to whatever mood the country they were living in at the time was experiencing. It is the Palestinians, who serve as a proxy of much more powerful countries, who represent the attempt to create a pan-Arab Middle East, and who attempt to erase the actual history of the region by suppressing indigenous cultures. Additionally, it should be evidence enough that 21% of Israel's population is indeed Arab, with straight up anti-Zionist Arabs holding seats in the Knesset, meanwhile every single Arab country forced out their Jews. You are an active participant in powerful, ignorant, and hateful propaganda that has a 2,000 year history, that is extremely popular right now, and you act morally superior and brave because of it.

Dude, you’re like…….. so hot. 🤔

Hassan is a dem entryist. I mean come on, its so obvious. He platforms and works for people like platner, ya know, the guy who jury rigged a grenade launcher to kill civilians and raped his Ex girlfriend? Weird hassan supported that guy through all of it, huh.

2:14:23 - Calling people like Hasan Piker "legitimate progressive like Democratic socialists" is like calling the KKK a bunch of ordinary people just hanging around. Its all the same shit, just on the other extreme of the spectrum. Also (and I know this is hard to grasp for people in the US): In Germany, you can express your opinion about anything (including Israel) however you want.

dave bro youre a great science guy but politics aint for ya, especially when youre batting for the side that uses human shields and is completely ok with using the deaths of their own to push a genocide agenda against their enemy when theyre the aggressors just crying because theyre losing the war they started where 70% of their buildings were destroyed but close to 1% of their population was killed. maybe look into all the other (actual)genocides in africa and the middle east where the muslims are the perpetrators for 99% of them that literally no one talks about(the 1% is done by the chinese), or maybe look into the invasion of the west?

Nice job deleting THOUSANDS of comments! Great dialogue you are have here. Why dont you just debate him?

Dave, I have been a huge fan of your science education content for years, but I implore you, in good faith, to consider whether your ascerbic attitude (that I usually love) and certitude on this topic have perhaps compromised your thought process on an issue that is way more nuanced and complicated than "the earth is clearly not flat" and "vaccine deniers are idiots" (both positions I am on board with). Intensity does not substitute for evidence, on either side. Just as a simple starting point, and anyone can do this, download the transcript for Dave's initial video on Destiny, then upload a response video transcript. For anyone that considers some of Destiny's repsonses to be surface level and dismissive (and you'd have a fair argyment there) you can download the video transcript of LonerBox's much more comprehensive video reaction and fact checking. Then ask ChatGPT or Claude or whichever tool you use to assess the validity and accuracy of all the claims being made and on the balance who has stronger arguments. (You don't have to blindly trust the AI fact checking, do the research yourself and investigate). Dismissing checks just because they might be AI fact checking is not honest. For an issue so fraught with divisiveness, it's immensely complex and there is huge amount to criticize Israel over, as Destiny often does. But your simplification of the issue through a binary lense and irresponsible claims: "Truly, they are the most potent force of pure evil in the world since the Nazis" (the Khmer Rouge? Mao Zedong's great lead forward? Syrian civil war? Darfur? Stalin's purges?) do not advance dialogue around this issue. Also re. Destiny, you've been very open to debating people you consider shills and grifters in the science domain. Why not engage and debate Destiny? He's made the offer clear. I know I'd apprecaite a debat more than videos back and forth.

But do you condemn what happened on october 7th?

I like Benjamin. Seems pretty chill when hes not killin shit

Zionism is Judaism. Genesis 15:18 Deuteronomy 20:16. Look familiar Dave?

I heard youre not really a professor.

dave, you should do a video on hasan piker

1:54:19 Israel? Alright you’ve convinced me

2:40:48 I'm a fuckin destiny stan what the fuck!?

Brace yourselves, the Hasan bros are coming

Bro pangburn is still going after Dave lmao

Why are you dodging Nick Matau? There is no genocide, saying a word over and over doesn't make it so.

TFW you know more about the topic than the creator does and almost everything they say is wrong. How many other wrong things has he said in other videos? Unsubscribing.

Are you okay?

I think you should debate Destiny. Even if you know what he's gonna say and how he's gonna act, he's not some nobody. If you're that confident in your ability to debate him and win, then you may to consider how noble a public service it would be to slaughter him verbally and teach his following something about what Israel is actually doing. That said, if you are afraid to debate him due to his following or whatever other reason, then that would make sense to me why you wouldn't. Please reconsider.

debate

😬 not a good look Dave

Literally the very moment polls show most Democrats negative on Israel, Davey's pro establishment fugue state allows him to have an opinion on this most recent phase of the genocide which has been ongoing for nearly three years at this point. Truly courageous. You really showed that other center left guy for having the previous center left position rather than adopting the new one that you just adopted five minutes ago.

I now crave a debate between you two. No pressure, but... please, please, please!! It would be so interesting.

Please set your sights on that other creep lonerbox. He is super disigenuous and relies on rhetorical bullshit too. Would also not be surprised if he was also a discord creep like Destiny.

you’ll debate no name flat earth losers but run away with your tail between your legs from destiny. really makes you think…

Flat earth dave is more credible now than anti semetic dave

Won't debate Destiny, won't debate Lonerbox, won't speak to Pangburn. What a chicken!

i wonder if he would have an actual good faith conversation with you... like im not a steven bonnel (destiny) cultist by any means and im team dave here forsure... but i feel like he may be able to learn and see his own "dunning-kruger" effect... cause at the end of the day i feel like dave and destiny could be on the same side when it comes to influencing who we elect for power positions.... i could be wrong but thats just what i was thinkin at this point in time.❤

don't do the debate. The "fans" who tell you to do it are bots

I have evidence of destiny touching a young boy inappropriately I occupied Palestine it happened during his sponsored trip to the Zionist entity. I can email you more details and put you in contact with the victim I think you only hit the tip of the iceberg of this monster. Let me know if you are interested. Also great video.

Destiny is a moron and thank you for exposing him. I think it might still be worth debating him since it might wake some of his fanbase up to his pro-genocide stupidity.

An advice for future videos, try not to use AI overview to show the facts, even if on that case ot was accurate it is really easy for someone to go and say "oh look, he is using AI for his research of course it is wrong" and I would argue that AI overview alone is not enough to show that something is true due to how easy it is to make it fabricate some answer based on your prompt.

Dave Dave oh Dave…. I used to always watch your videos but I have to unsubscribe now due to your anti symmetrical statements 💔💔💔

you haven't meticulously laid out anything, your last video was just a deranged rambling of an obsessed and antisemitic lunatic ... you should seriously see a psychiatrist, because you seriously have a problem ...

The Romans colonized the Jews and renamed the land. Palestine is not real. If you are truly about land back then be intellectually honest and support zionism.

That’s not there land, they didn’t buy it. And just like blks got there land taken in USA and it were delclared imminent domain, they were given some money to go live elsewhere, just as the palestians are. None are wrong, but ur making it seem as if they owned the land, they did not. Plus Israel can declare the land eminent domain just like USA did

Let’s talk abt how there literally no Jews in Arab countries bc they’ve all been pogromed, killed, made to convert, or exiled. Not a single Arab country has a sizable Jewish population bc they’re purposely trying to reduce it to zero, which they’ve successfully done in 99% of Arab controlled countries. Why aren’t there any Christian’s in these Islamist countries? Hmm, maybe bc they’ve were genocided, yet let’s only talk abt some barbarians who were moved out of Gaza.. let’s not talk abt Arabs genocide in Sudan, Yemen , other African countries every single minute but PaLeStInEeeee!! Stfu hypocrite. U think being some sassy ahh niggga and ur fake gotchas really doing something 😂😂 shut up already witcho cocked head bubble gum popping, Palestine reppin ahh

You’re wrong Dave about the Jews not being middle eastern. Yes they are. They’re apart of the Semitic family, an Afroasiatic group that both Arabs and Jews inherently derived from.

how about debate destiny you prof coward.

It should be stated though, that Hasan is not a very nice guy either. I mean, he put a shock collar onto his dog and brags about having visited brothels in Amsterdam and Berlin. He might have the right opinion on Palestine, but animal cruelty and exploitation of women shouldn't be tolerated either.

Oh man you are getting wrecked by Destiny in the other video.

You are wrong about the csam thing. Destiny was getting catfished by a dude pretending to be a 20 yo chick, the catfish was using pics of a 17yo who was his gf. Aren’t professors supposed to be good at research?

Thanks!

Uff Dave - this is perhaps the biggest slap in the face to date. I did not think you were such a low, dishonest and historically incompetent jerk. If you ACTUALLY believe that you come across as rational in this video.... well, you will face the truth one day. Until then, how about you grab yourself a history book and actually learn a little. You are to history and geopolitics what flat-earthers are to science. Tough. A sad unsub indeed.

Thanks!

Is this the same professor that declined 1 million from Pangburn to the Palestinian charity just to debate Destiny? Google it if he doesn’t delete this comment too.

A conversation would be generational content

I guarantee you one thing dave 😂 He sure as shit ain't reacting to this Video anytime soon